5 alive or not-NCAA meet

[CowtownPV]

The NCAA decided to go straight through all jumpers so that the jumpers at the end of the list didn't have to wait so long after warm up to get their first jump. This meant a long break in between 1st and 2nd attempt for many jumpers. Which do most vaulters like?

[rainbowgirl28]

5 alive as long as the officials know how to do it.

[Vaultref]

I was looking at the posted board in another topic and from what I see is 5-alive would not have been used at the first height as only 8 were jumping.

On the second height, you started with 11, but rather quickly got down to
8 or less at the height after maybe 1 round of 5-alive. At that point you turn it off.

The third height started with 16 any maybe two rounds of 5-alive occurred prior to getting down to 8 or less and then it's turned off again.

Regardless, if the "boss" says don't use 5-alive, you don't use it. I have no problem with that as long a the "pit" crew is performing flawlessly and the On-deck jumper has dialed in his standards setting without delay.
Time is lost waiting on those two things to happen. Even with a miss, a
good crew could have the pit ready and the new jumper officially called up in under 18 seconds. There shouldn't be a long delay for that second jump if the everyone is doing what is asked of them.

[vaulterx]

5 alive is the way to go. if you miss on your first or second attempt it is easer to remember how it felt what happened and make corrections for the next attempt. When you have to sit and wait for ten min or more your body kind of forgets about what happened and makes it harder to make the appropriate corrections the next time around.

[achtungpv]

I quite honestly don't see an advantage to 5-alive. It just gives the appearance you are moving faster since at any given time you are dealing with a small subset of contestants. In the end, you still have the same number of vaulters, same number of jumps, same number of standards adjustments, etc. Also, it could be argued that it may increase the length of competition because there's not enough recovery time between jumps and that may cause additional misses that may not occur if the athlete had more time to rest.

[rainbowgirl28]

I quite honestly don't see an advantage to 5-alive. It just gives the appearance you are moving faster since at any given time you are dealing with a small subset of contestants. In the end, you still have the same number of vaulters, same number of jumps, same number of standards adjustments, etc. Also, it could be argued that it may increase the length of competition because there's not enough recovery time between jumps and that may cause additional misses that may not occur if the athlete had more time to rest.

I think most college vaulters feel that it's a good amount of recovery time. The bigger issue seems to be athletes getting cold because they wait too long.

Maybe they shouldn't do 5 alive for masters meets since those guys need more time to recover between jump

[vtcoach]

I thought it hurt the performances of some vaulters at NCAAs.... vaulters who had good first attempts who I am used to seeing make small corrections and clear easily on a 2nd attempt were being more inconsistent with their 2nd attempts. Both the men and the women had at least one height with 16 vaulters alive (the men at 5.30 and the women at 4.10). The wait between 1st and 2nd attempts was over 20 minutes in some cases. Indoors, I would prefer 5 alive. Outdoors it becomes a tougher decision because if the weather changes in the middle of a height then 5 alive (or flights) disadvantages some athletes more than if you were going straight through.